Sachin_Stock
09-24 09:37 AM
Consider the scenario:
Two guys (A and B) come to US in 2005, both do not have MS and experience less than 5 years. Therefore both not elligible for EB2 on 2005. They are from a retrogressed country.
A does MS and joins job in 2007, becomes eligible for EB2 and files GC on 2007.
B joins a job on 2005 that do not need MS and experience and files for EB3.
Till 2010 both of them did not get GC. But B crossed 5 years of experience and from EB3 to EB2. Now B's priority date is 2005, although he was not elligible for EB2 at that time.
Although A was elligible for EB2 in 2007 earlier than B (2010), A is pushed behind B.
SHould it be acceptable to people like A? And there is not one or two pleale like B, thousands arer doing that?
If you see my priority date you will understand I am not saying this for myself. I have a bro and friends who are facing this isssue.
Therefore EB2s who are from mid 2006 onwards will really get pushed back..
I see this porting simillar to the labor substitition.. Till it was in place it was legal although thousands bought labors and that is one main reason EB2 had retrogressed back to 2000. I predict simillar thing is happending again, people are paying money to the desi employers to file perm in EB2 again pretty soon same tertrogression will happen to EB2 I if any urgent action is not taken.
I hace passed this stage.. now its for you all to decide..
The fact that B filed before A, puts B ahead of A. You must think of it as just one queue and not different queues.
Two guys (A and B) come to US in 2005, both do not have MS and experience less than 5 years. Therefore both not elligible for EB2 on 2005. They are from a retrogressed country.
A does MS and joins job in 2007, becomes eligible for EB2 and files GC on 2007.
B joins a job on 2005 that do not need MS and experience and files for EB3.
Till 2010 both of them did not get GC. But B crossed 5 years of experience and from EB3 to EB2. Now B's priority date is 2005, although he was not elligible for EB2 at that time.
Although A was elligible for EB2 in 2007 earlier than B (2010), A is pushed behind B.
SHould it be acceptable to people like A? And there is not one or two pleale like B, thousands arer doing that?
If you see my priority date you will understand I am not saying this for myself. I have a bro and friends who are facing this isssue.
Therefore EB2s who are from mid 2006 onwards will really get pushed back..
I see this porting simillar to the labor substitition.. Till it was in place it was legal although thousands bought labors and that is one main reason EB2 had retrogressed back to 2000. I predict simillar thing is happending again, people are paying money to the desi employers to file perm in EB2 again pretty soon same tertrogression will happen to EB2 I if any urgent action is not taken.
I hace passed this stage.. now its for you all to decide..
The fact that B filed before A, puts B ahead of A. You must think of it as just one queue and not different queues.
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anzerraja
07-19 07:11 PM
ThinkTwice , very valid points.
May i also take a minute to thank you for staritng the original thread on this issue. We would have never come to know about this issue otherwise. Thanks !
I have requested Zoooom to do the same in the other thread and Zoooom is working on it. Thanks Zooom !
Zoom, I appreciate you having started this thread, I have a suggession - Can you please
- give a little back ground as to why we are starting this effort
- The source http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jul2007/db20070718_012859.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index _businessweek+exclusives
- Also some one mentioned that Aman was even considering SELLING his house to support OUR cause.
- what we intend to accomplish by this effort
- The manner in which the money that is collected will be admistered ( If this has not been finalized may be just mention that this is WIP)
- what our target is.
If you add all this information in the initial post it will give direction and substance to this effort.
Thanks
TT
May i also take a minute to thank you for staritng the original thread on this issue. We would have never come to know about this issue otherwise. Thanks !
I have requested Zoooom to do the same in the other thread and Zoooom is working on it. Thanks Zooom !
Zoom, I appreciate you having started this thread, I have a suggession - Can you please
- give a little back ground as to why we are starting this effort
- The source http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jul2007/db20070718_012859.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index _businessweek+exclusives
- Also some one mentioned that Aman was even considering SELLING his house to support OUR cause.
- what we intend to accomplish by this effort
- The manner in which the money that is collected will be admistered ( If this has not been finalized may be just mention that this is WIP)
- what our target is.
If you add all this information in the initial post it will give direction and substance to this effort.
Thanks
TT
sirinme
09-30 10:30 AM
I'm currently on my 4th EAD & AP, and I used AC21 twice so far to switch jobs (similar job descriptions, including the specific technologies I worked on). On both occasions, I have not informed USCIS. My attorney said one is not legally required to do so, and that we could respond if there is any RFE.
But I also know that there are lot of attorneys out there who recommend informing USCIS about the job change. I don't personally know of anyone who have used AC21 and went on to get the green card, so I can't really tell which approach is better. In either case, make sure to have all relevant paper work with you - specifically the experience letters from old employers with proper job descriptions.
As for the salary increases when changing jobs, I did talk to more than one attorney about this. And what I heard consistently was that higher salary is not as much of a problem as lower salary could be. In my case, I had salary increases of more than 30% each time I changed jobs, and I am doing fine so far. Whether that becomes a problem for me or not, I will deal with it when it happens.
I traveled out of the country a couple of times using AP. On my return to US, at the port of entry (SFO), I was asked if I still worked for the company that originally sponsored my GC application. I told them I changed employers using AC21, and that I was not legally required to inform USCIS about the job change. And they let me go without causing any trouble. Not sure if anyone else had different experiences in such case, but the immigration officers at SFO seem to be somewhat easier to deal with (assuming you haven't done anything wrong, of course).
I did have trouble with AC21 once. I ended up having a gap between my 2nd and 3rd EADs (so did my wife too), as we tried to do too much 'optimization' of EADs. Well, we learned the hard way that 'optimization' effort is bad, as both of us had to stop working during the gap. It's not a very pleasant feeling having to explain our respective employers that we had such issue. We lost money too, as we couldn't be legally paid during the gap - in addition to the unnecessary stress. I wish USCIS issues EADs with longer validity period - something like 3 years (but I once heard Aman say that they couldn't do so due to a software glitch in their system!!). In any case, we are now filing for EAD renewals well in advance of the current one's expiry.
Other issues with AC21 that we faced are things like having to pay for EAD and AP renewals every year, which is quite expensive. I guess you could negotiate this with your new employer when changing jobs. And the sheer inability to change your job roles or take on more responsibilities (on paper too!) is frustrating, but that is more of a lengthy GC processing symptom than an AC21 issue.
All things considered, I think AC21 is good. It's got it's set of issues, especially if you don't use it wisely, but it at least lets you have some kind of progress in your careers. The way I see it, if there is no career progress, I can at least make more money. You got to gain something over years of waiting to keep you going!
But I also know that there are lot of attorneys out there who recommend informing USCIS about the job change. I don't personally know of anyone who have used AC21 and went on to get the green card, so I can't really tell which approach is better. In either case, make sure to have all relevant paper work with you - specifically the experience letters from old employers with proper job descriptions.
As for the salary increases when changing jobs, I did talk to more than one attorney about this. And what I heard consistently was that higher salary is not as much of a problem as lower salary could be. In my case, I had salary increases of more than 30% each time I changed jobs, and I am doing fine so far. Whether that becomes a problem for me or not, I will deal with it when it happens.
I traveled out of the country a couple of times using AP. On my return to US, at the port of entry (SFO), I was asked if I still worked for the company that originally sponsored my GC application. I told them I changed employers using AC21, and that I was not legally required to inform USCIS about the job change. And they let me go without causing any trouble. Not sure if anyone else had different experiences in such case, but the immigration officers at SFO seem to be somewhat easier to deal with (assuming you haven't done anything wrong, of course).
I did have trouble with AC21 once. I ended up having a gap between my 2nd and 3rd EADs (so did my wife too), as we tried to do too much 'optimization' of EADs. Well, we learned the hard way that 'optimization' effort is bad, as both of us had to stop working during the gap. It's not a very pleasant feeling having to explain our respective employers that we had such issue. We lost money too, as we couldn't be legally paid during the gap - in addition to the unnecessary stress. I wish USCIS issues EADs with longer validity period - something like 3 years (but I once heard Aman say that they couldn't do so due to a software glitch in their system!!). In any case, we are now filing for EAD renewals well in advance of the current one's expiry.
Other issues with AC21 that we faced are things like having to pay for EAD and AP renewals every year, which is quite expensive. I guess you could negotiate this with your new employer when changing jobs. And the sheer inability to change your job roles or take on more responsibilities (on paper too!) is frustrating, but that is more of a lengthy GC processing symptom than an AC21 issue.
All things considered, I think AC21 is good. It's got it's set of issues, especially if you don't use it wisely, but it at least lets you have some kind of progress in your careers. The way I see it, if there is no career progress, I can at least make more money. You got to gain something over years of waiting to keep you going!
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helmet
09-03 02:14 AM
received cpo email for EAD today. AP is still pending and there is a soft LUD on 9/1/08.
RD: 7/15/2008
RD: 7/15/2008
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mike_2000_la
06-08 12:29 AM
I think the real rush would be this week....
test101
07-09 05:17 PM
awsome ...did you get the list of emails i sent you via email :)
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ds37
11-18 07:34 AM
done.
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makemygc
08-01 04:52 PM
My friends check encashed today from TSC. His Attorney send application (6/20) to NSC and received there on 6/21.
So long way to go... I am not sure next weekend estimate will also hold good for July 2nd filer. :) Don't kill yourself and it will not make it faster.:D :D :D
Most of the applications are going to NSC but TSC is the one which is slow. I do not understand the reason. It seems their boss (Mr. Gonzales) sits in NSC, so they do not do any work. Does any one have any idea why TSC is so slow.
If it goes like this, it will take a century to get EAD and AP itself.
Just venting out my frustration...:mad:
So long way to go... I am not sure next weekend estimate will also hold good for July 2nd filer. :) Don't kill yourself and it will not make it faster.:D :D :D
Most of the applications are going to NSC but TSC is the one which is slow. I do not understand the reason. It seems their boss (Mr. Gonzales) sits in NSC, so they do not do any work. Does any one have any idea why TSC is so slow.
If it goes like this, it will take a century to get EAD and AP itself.
Just venting out my frustration...:mad:
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feedfront
08-26 04:50 PM
I will also suggest guys waiting with their PD current to write to the USCIS Director in DC. I did that; not sure if that worked in my case, but one needs to explore every way of bringing their case to the attention of the management.
Do you have contact info?
Do you have contact info?
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PDOCT05
10-11 09:31 AM
I got some good news. I called uscis just now and got two receipt numbers, one for 485 and one for EAD. Checks not cashed yet. I don't have the receipt number for AP yet. So it seems that our box is not lost and they're processing them, though so slowly. My application arrived on 7/3 at NSC, received by R. William at 9:03am.
Hope every one of us will receive our receipts, EAD and AP asap.
Congrats ...i think July 3rd filers count down started...please update list.
Hope every one of us will receive our receipts, EAD and AP asap.
Congrats ...i think July 3rd filers count down started...please update list.
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vinabath
03-25 04:35 PM
Thats not true. My PD is March 2005. When my PD comes, I have to apply for EAD whereas others will get GC. Oh such a screwed up system.
It is true. I will take a bet. If your PD does not go to March 2005 by Sep 2009, I will give you $100. It it goes give me $100:D
It is true. I will take a bet. If your PD does not go to March 2005 by Sep 2009, I will give you $100. It it goes give me $100:D
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kalparikh
07-02 07:53 PM
So if I-485 was delivered before 10:00 AM...........
Does I-485 will be rejected / return back to sender / it will porcess?
please post your views...........
Does I-485 will be rejected / return back to sender / it will porcess?
please post your views...........
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number30
05-04 09:30 PM
Hello Sir,
While opinions are good and welcome. My requirement is to see the exact INA language.
I have read the INA Sec 203 multiple times, I could not find the link between ebquota and ebdependents. May be I am missing it. Can some one show the exact lines in INA ?
Think about this "5 year old derivative kid" is counted in ebquota. How did the kid qualify for ebquota ? The law clearly says "to qualified immigrants who are aliens described in any of the following subparagraphs" and then goes on to say the exact qualification.
Don't take me out of context. I do want the kid to get greencard, however I am against the kid being counted in ebquota.
I am yet to get the access to ( I am a recent donor ) donor thread that refers the exact INA language. Can some other donor post the exact INA language in this thread ?
Thanks
I spoke with our attorney
He said
INA Sec 203 talks only about the eligibility to apply the I-485. But the visa number is derived from a relationship to Principal applicant of green card. This is true for all categories Including investor, asylum, Employment categories. Please note that It is Dept of State that is responsible for this allocation not USCIS.
While opinions are good and welcome. My requirement is to see the exact INA language.
I have read the INA Sec 203 multiple times, I could not find the link between ebquota and ebdependents. May be I am missing it. Can some one show the exact lines in INA ?
Think about this "5 year old derivative kid" is counted in ebquota. How did the kid qualify for ebquota ? The law clearly says "to qualified immigrants who are aliens described in any of the following subparagraphs" and then goes on to say the exact qualification.
Don't take me out of context. I do want the kid to get greencard, however I am against the kid being counted in ebquota.
I am yet to get the access to ( I am a recent donor ) donor thread that refers the exact INA language. Can some other donor post the exact INA language in this thread ?
Thanks
I spoke with our attorney
He said
INA Sec 203 talks only about the eligibility to apply the I-485. But the visa number is derived from a relationship to Principal applicant of green card. This is true for all categories Including investor, asylum, Employment categories. Please note that It is Dept of State that is responsible for this allocation not USCIS.
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FinalGC
07-09 02:06 PM
Yes, that is understood.
The question is if one has worked as a contractor and got a employment RFE and the company provided a letter stating a full time consultant job, has USCIS rejected such a response?
Answer is NO.
The question is if one has worked as a contractor and got a employment RFE and the company provided a letter stating a full time consultant job, has USCIS rejected such a response?
Answer is NO.
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deepak
09-10 07:58 PM
YOu are a USELESS fellow. Thats right.. Immigration voice core are the ones who are doing whatever they can for you thankless idiots like YOU!!
Why do you care if they care about EB3 or not.. do you care? Seperate effort.. what will you do in that.. again a back bench behind the alias pushing others to do something, without donating or contributing. Who gave you even the right to write here and put your views when you cannot even can consider it trustworthy to donate 2 cents.
BTW keeps your "2 cents" to yourself. I hate reading the post like these.
I am trying to put this as honestly as possible. And trust me, there is no sarcasm here, I am just curious, if you hate to so much, why exactly DO you read posts like these?
Why do you care if they care about EB3 or not.. do you care? Seperate effort.. what will you do in that.. again a back bench behind the alias pushing others to do something, without donating or contributing. Who gave you even the right to write here and put your views when you cannot even can consider it trustworthy to donate 2 cents.
BTW keeps your "2 cents" to yourself. I hate reading the post like these.
I am trying to put this as honestly as possible. And trust me, there is no sarcasm here, I am just curious, if you hate to so much, why exactly DO you read posts like these?
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sroyc
11-21 03:48 AM
Sorry to hear about your situation. I would suggest that you talk to a good immigration lawyer about this.
In the worst case scenario, if your wife has an EAD she can try to find a job and ask her company to sponsor an H-1B.
I hope things take a turn for the better for you and your family.
Gurus,
I have a unique position. couple of weeks back I was told that have fatal cancer and won't live pass 4-6 months. After recovering from initial shock I am wondering if my wife will be able to continue her american dream or she will have to head home after me.
I have filed 485 with approved 140 back in june, 2007 with PD of March, 2003
Please help.
Mehul
In the worst case scenario, if your wife has an EAD she can try to find a job and ask her company to sponsor an H-1B.
I hope things take a turn for the better for you and your family.
Gurus,
I have a unique position. couple of weeks back I was told that have fatal cancer and won't live pass 4-6 months. After recovering from initial shock I am wondering if my wife will be able to continue her american dream or she will have to head home after me.
I have filed 485 with approved 140 back in june, 2007 with PD of March, 2003
Please help.
Mehul
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apahilaj
01-06 10:00 AM
Guys,
Just wanted to give you an update on my FP notice. Finally I got FP notice today schedule for 01/29/08. I guess Infopass appointment works. I had infopass appointment on 21st of Dec 2007 and IO told me I should expect FP within 3 weeks . I guess USCIS has started working after a long break. Hang on guys.
Congrats Parag. You got it finally. Am still waiting.
Do you know which option you selected when you had scheduled the infopass? Also, what documents did you carry at the infopass?
Thanks for the update again.
Just wanted to give you an update on my FP notice. Finally I got FP notice today schedule for 01/29/08. I guess Infopass appointment works. I had infopass appointment on 21st of Dec 2007 and IO told me I should expect FP within 3 weeks . I guess USCIS has started working after a long break. Hang on guys.
Congrats Parag. You got it finally. Am still waiting.
Do you know which option you selected when you had scheduled the infopass? Also, what documents did you carry at the infopass?
Thanks for the update again.
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skgc
04-01 01:33 AM
Hi All,
I have a question about invoking AC21 using EAD vs AC21 using H1B.
My status is as follows:
- approved 140 from a BIG company with BIG lawyers, but company going down.
- more than 180 days since filing 485
- H1B valid till March 2010.
- I have been on H1B since 2001
- WILL BE LAID OFF THIS WEEK.
I do not know if my sponsoring employer will revoke my 140, but I believe it should not matter.
My question however is regards to the EAD/H1B usage after revoking AC21.
I may get an offer from a company that is small with limited funding. They are not willing to do my H1B and want me to use EAD. I wanted to keep my H1B valid, but the company will make me pay for it. And given that I will have to apply for extension soon, I will have to pay for it again. So monetarily, its not good for me.
So I thought of using EAD for the new job. But if I want to get back to H1B later, i have the following questions:
1. Can I go back to H1B again after using EAD
2. Will I be subjected to the cap?
3. What should I do to get back to H1B?
4. Can I do it without leaving the country?
5. Will the financial of the new company matter. Its a valid startup and my job will be similar. I will take a pay cut, but I believe it should not matter for AC21.
6. Any other advice, anyone?
I would really appreciate if someone could help me out.
regards,
ssk
ps: i have donated and been active in the forum earlier under a different name. i lost that id, hence created a new one. so please dont reply asking me to donate first.
I have a question about invoking AC21 using EAD vs AC21 using H1B.
My status is as follows:
- approved 140 from a BIG company with BIG lawyers, but company going down.
- more than 180 days since filing 485
- H1B valid till March 2010.
- I have been on H1B since 2001
- WILL BE LAID OFF THIS WEEK.
I do not know if my sponsoring employer will revoke my 140, but I believe it should not matter.
My question however is regards to the EAD/H1B usage after revoking AC21.
I may get an offer from a company that is small with limited funding. They are not willing to do my H1B and want me to use EAD. I wanted to keep my H1B valid, but the company will make me pay for it. And given that I will have to apply for extension soon, I will have to pay for it again. So monetarily, its not good for me.
So I thought of using EAD for the new job. But if I want to get back to H1B later, i have the following questions:
1. Can I go back to H1B again after using EAD
2. Will I be subjected to the cap?
3. What should I do to get back to H1B?
4. Can I do it without leaving the country?
5. Will the financial of the new company matter. Its a valid startup and my job will be similar. I will take a pay cut, but I believe it should not matter for AC21.
6. Any other advice, anyone?
I would really appreciate if someone could help me out.
regards,
ssk
ps: i have donated and been active in the forum earlier under a different name. i lost that id, hence created a new one. so please dont reply asking me to donate first.
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pamposh
09-15 11:48 AM
I am happy to see some beginings here.. although we have had many many threads before for this kind of initiative but I see some difference here... Like some others said we need to draft an action plan from A to Z here (understood that it may not be exactly what we would be following over time but), we need some roadmap to follow to reach our target.
I like the idea of collecting info about who is willing to contribute and I am all for it.
btw, option 1 is not an option for me.
Pamposh
I like the idea of collecting info about who is willing to contribute and I am all for it.
btw, option 1 is not an option for me.
Pamposh
SGP
11-19 02:40 PM
Nothing for Legal Immigrants, but any ways below is his response.
Dear XXXXXXXXX:
Thank you for contacting me to express your support for S. 729, the DREAM Act of 2009. Your opinion is very important to me, and I appreciate the opportunity to respond to you on this important issue.
You will be pleased to know that I am a strong cosponsor of the DREAM Act and am fighting tirelessly to enact this critical legislation into law. As the first person in my family to attend college, I can personally attest to the vital importance of a quality education. The DREAM Act, would give countless innocent children the same opportunity I had—to fully reach their potential and fulfill the American Dream. In doing so, it will give our country thousands of new doctors, teachers, pilots, and servicemen. It is a win-win situation for both those who would directly benefit from this legislation, as well as our country as a whole.
Those that oppose the DREAM Act believe that children should pay the consequences for their parents' mistakes. They believe that children who were brought to this country by their parents without the proper documentation or were kept in this country by their parents without the proper documentation should not be allowed to get an American education. That is not only wrong, but it also goes against who we are and what we stand for.
While the DREAM Act has yet to be passed, you may rest assured knowing that I will continue to fight until every child in the United States has the opportunity to reach the American Dream. Anything less is simply un-American.
Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. I appreciate your support. Please do not hesitate to contact me if I may be of more assistance. I invite you to visit my website Robert Menendez - US Senator for New Jersey: Home (http://menendez.senate.gov) to learn of other important issues to New Jersey.
Sincerely,
Robert Menendez
United States Senator
Dear XXXXXXXXX:
Thank you for contacting me to express your support for S. 729, the DREAM Act of 2009. Your opinion is very important to me, and I appreciate the opportunity to respond to you on this important issue.
You will be pleased to know that I am a strong cosponsor of the DREAM Act and am fighting tirelessly to enact this critical legislation into law. As the first person in my family to attend college, I can personally attest to the vital importance of a quality education. The DREAM Act, would give countless innocent children the same opportunity I had—to fully reach their potential and fulfill the American Dream. In doing so, it will give our country thousands of new doctors, teachers, pilots, and servicemen. It is a win-win situation for both those who would directly benefit from this legislation, as well as our country as a whole.
Those that oppose the DREAM Act believe that children should pay the consequences for their parents' mistakes. They believe that children who were brought to this country by their parents without the proper documentation or were kept in this country by their parents without the proper documentation should not be allowed to get an American education. That is not only wrong, but it also goes against who we are and what we stand for.
While the DREAM Act has yet to be passed, you may rest assured knowing that I will continue to fight until every child in the United States has the opportunity to reach the American Dream. Anything less is simply un-American.
Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. I appreciate your support. Please do not hesitate to contact me if I may be of more assistance. I invite you to visit my website Robert Menendez - US Senator for New Jersey: Home (http://menendez.senate.gov) to learn of other important issues to New Jersey.
Sincerely,
Robert Menendez
United States Senator
seekerofpeace
09-13 09:38 PM
Immi_Seeker,
I absolutely agree with you. One of my cousin is unfortunately suffering in EB3 for years he is a MS and working for over 10 years, he has been trying to port to EB2...but his attorney flatly refused on grounds that the company doesn't need a advanced degree applicant for that position and they can't justify the same to USCIS and invite scrutiny especially in this economy.
Ofcourse porting is blessing for lawyers and it means greenbacks for them the more the better.
SoP
I absolutely agree with you. One of my cousin is unfortunately suffering in EB3 for years he is a MS and working for over 10 years, he has been trying to port to EB2...but his attorney flatly refused on grounds that the company doesn't need a advanced degree applicant for that position and they can't justify the same to USCIS and invite scrutiny especially in this economy.
Ofcourse porting is blessing for lawyers and it means greenbacks for them the more the better.
SoP
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