chanduv23
03-10 07:10 AM
well you have a cooperative lawyer and a co operative employer...That is not always the case...Sometimes the employers are just using this excuse to keep folks working in the same position just because it suits employer's interests....
I agree no less with you. I went through a very bad employer who made me travel crazily (90%) though travel was not a part of the job and never gave access to vacations, nor bonuses and meagre hikes just because my GC was backlogged and my manager knew everything about it as he did all the paperwork. I did this for 4 years, later switched to a consulting company where employer is very cooperative.
Having a cooperative employer makes a big difference, something that makes you comfortable.
Weighing out various options like Canada, Australia must be of high priority as these countries, though racist, at the end of the day, you are not bonded with the people (you have choice to stay away from exploitation). Though there may not be as many jobs in those countries, it could just be a backup plan and who knows, every country is catching up now.
After 9/11, pro immigration policies are getting difficult and we never know the outcomes of these CIR bills, it is getting delayed now and we don't know how things are going to be.
In short, retrogression will be there and will affect us.
If you can do eb3 to eb2 conversion with an old PD, you are better off - go ahead and do that, if you have a recent eb3 PD, you must look for choices. USCIS clearly know the pattern and the "trickling effect" which was explained in murthy.com clearly explains the way these visas will be handled.
I agree no less with you. I went through a very bad employer who made me travel crazily (90%) though travel was not a part of the job and never gave access to vacations, nor bonuses and meagre hikes just because my GC was backlogged and my manager knew everything about it as he did all the paperwork. I did this for 4 years, later switched to a consulting company where employer is very cooperative.
Having a cooperative employer makes a big difference, something that makes you comfortable.
Weighing out various options like Canada, Australia must be of high priority as these countries, though racist, at the end of the day, you are not bonded with the people (you have choice to stay away from exploitation). Though there may not be as many jobs in those countries, it could just be a backup plan and who knows, every country is catching up now.
After 9/11, pro immigration policies are getting difficult and we never know the outcomes of these CIR bills, it is getting delayed now and we don't know how things are going to be.
In short, retrogression will be there and will affect us.
If you can do eb3 to eb2 conversion with an old PD, you are better off - go ahead and do that, if you have a recent eb3 PD, you must look for choices. USCIS clearly know the pattern and the "trickling effect" which was explained in murthy.com clearly explains the way these visas will be handled.
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rk07
09-28 11:34 AM
Did you noticed any LUD before check cashing as you got receipt from california. I filed on July 20 and no news yet.
Not sure of LUD. Today I checked online account and I saw checks got cashed and receipt #'s starting with WAC at the back of the check.
Waiting for the scanned copies of receipts from Attorney.
Thanks,
-rk.
Not sure of LUD. Today I checked online account and I saw checks got cashed and receipt #'s starting with WAC at the back of the check.
Waiting for the scanned copies of receipts from Attorney.
Thanks,
-rk.
veerug
09-13 01:12 AM
Application was received on July 12th. No cheques cashed and no receipts!
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Munna Bhai
08-14 08:52 AM
All,
i received approval for EAD today for myself and wife See sig for details.
congrats, looks like things are moving
i received approval for EAD today for myself and wife See sig for details.
congrats, looks like things are moving
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magicmonkey
09-20 11:18 AM
Sent to Nebraska on 11th July.
My and my wife's all 6 checks got cashed today.
Receipt number starts from LIN.
Notice date: 14 sept
Thanks
My and my wife's all 6 checks got cashed today.
Receipt number starts from LIN.
Notice date: 14 sept
Thanks
rameshvaid
04-21 06:27 PM
Gurus,
I have a unique position. couple of weeks back I was told that have fatal cancer and won't live pass 4-6 months. After recovering from initial shock I am wondering if my wife will be able to continue her american dream or she will have to head home after me.
I have filed 485 with approved 140 back in june, 2007 with PD of March, 2003
Please help.
Mehul
Dear Mehul.
This is the most shocking of the threads, I have ever read. I know it needs lot of courage to go through what you are going through. MAY GOD BLESS you with a long life and gives courage and wisdom to your family. Getting another opinion from a reputed hospital should be your top most priority. MUST GET SECOND OPINION. Miracles do happen. A friend of mine survived for almost 12 years after the doctors told him 6 months.
I will keep you in my daily prayers and I AM SURE with so many hands folded in prayers for you, GOD will have to SHOWER with his choicest blessings and MAY YOU LIVE LONG.
Contact the IO diectly with all the medical documents and I am sure they are HUMAN too and some one will definately be there for you to help.
I am out of words and do not know as to how I can be of any help to YOU and YOUR family. PLS. do not hesitate to contact me.
GOD BLESS..
Ramesh
P.S: CAN SENIOR IV MEMBERS TAKE UP HIS CASE AND TALK TO A SENIOR OFFICER AT USCIS
I have a unique position. couple of weeks back I was told that have fatal cancer and won't live pass 4-6 months. After recovering from initial shock I am wondering if my wife will be able to continue her american dream or she will have to head home after me.
I have filed 485 with approved 140 back in june, 2007 with PD of March, 2003
Please help.
Mehul
Dear Mehul.
This is the most shocking of the threads, I have ever read. I know it needs lot of courage to go through what you are going through. MAY GOD BLESS you with a long life and gives courage and wisdom to your family. Getting another opinion from a reputed hospital should be your top most priority. MUST GET SECOND OPINION. Miracles do happen. A friend of mine survived for almost 12 years after the doctors told him 6 months.
I will keep you in my daily prayers and I AM SURE with so many hands folded in prayers for you, GOD will have to SHOWER with his choicest blessings and MAY YOU LIVE LONG.
Contact the IO diectly with all the medical documents and I am sure they are HUMAN too and some one will definately be there for you to help.
I am out of words and do not know as to how I can be of any help to YOU and YOUR family. PLS. do not hesitate to contact me.
GOD BLESS..
Ramesh
P.S: CAN SENIOR IV MEMBERS TAKE UP HIS CASE AND TALK TO A SENIOR OFFICER AT USCIS
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chanduy9
07-03 01:04 PM
I think any vender, any flower is fine, but all should send on the same day, so that we can get some atten.
I see only 3 or 4 orders till now...
Just Idea...
Thanks,
Chandra.
I see only 3 or 4 orders till now...
Just Idea...
Thanks,
Chandra.
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bingl
08-21 04:41 AM
Which service center??? NSC or TSC ?
RD - 16 th August
ND- 1 oct
NSC
RD - 16 th August
ND- 1 oct
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lskreddy
09-13 11:31 PM
Thanks for starting the thread. I share your grief and agree that we gotta do something. As much as I agree that we have to fight for our rights, I am not too sure if suing is the best option.
Again, if you all decide too, I will be more than glad to contribute my 100 but do we have enough ground to ask the questions in such 'blunt' manner? As much as you and I believe that our lives are completely topsy-turvied by these arcane policies, would some one arguing against our claim say that we are still entitled to do what we were allowed here to do. The employment visa allows us to work in a certain kind of job and nothing is hampering that aspect. Yes, it screws up promotions, displaces your plans to stay and has ill-effects both at a personal as well as professional levels but still..
If we have to sue, I think the ground work one has to do is immense. Find significant amounts of data from USCIS in terms of how random their approvals are and how it affects you after we all paid monies expecting a totally different pattern. If this can be accomplished, we could sue them probably for their lack of customer service, by-passing their guidelines on a consistent basis and thus hampering the lives of several people who were here for example in 2001, etc. I strongly believe data is our best friend (worst too, as it is personal data that we probably might not be entitled to even enquire..)
Again, I am no lawyer. I am sort of playing devil's advocate and just thinking through the obvious rebuttals. If we were too get enough data, combining that with active media publicity and some innovative ideas (flowers/clocks/watches whatever) or getting the businesses to acknowledge, then we may see certain changes.
I don't mean to damper your spirits by any sort. I certainly like the 'return my money if you fail to live by your own guidelines'.
Again, if you all decide too, I will be more than glad to contribute my 100 but do we have enough ground to ask the questions in such 'blunt' manner? As much as you and I believe that our lives are completely topsy-turvied by these arcane policies, would some one arguing against our claim say that we are still entitled to do what we were allowed here to do. The employment visa allows us to work in a certain kind of job and nothing is hampering that aspect. Yes, it screws up promotions, displaces your plans to stay and has ill-effects both at a personal as well as professional levels but still..
If we have to sue, I think the ground work one has to do is immense. Find significant amounts of data from USCIS in terms of how random their approvals are and how it affects you after we all paid monies expecting a totally different pattern. If this can be accomplished, we could sue them probably for their lack of customer service, by-passing their guidelines on a consistent basis and thus hampering the lives of several people who were here for example in 2001, etc. I strongly believe data is our best friend (worst too, as it is personal data that we probably might not be entitled to even enquire..)
Again, I am no lawyer. I am sort of playing devil's advocate and just thinking through the obvious rebuttals. If we were too get enough data, combining that with active media publicity and some innovative ideas (flowers/clocks/watches whatever) or getting the businesses to acknowledge, then we may see certain changes.
I don't mean to damper your spirits by any sort. I certainly like the 'return my money if you fail to live by your own guidelines'.
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amdn123
01-24 05:45 PM
I have changed employers on an H1B transfer. My previous employer had filed an I-485, I went through FP as well and it has been 180 days from the filing date. My new employer's lawyer had advised them that AC-21 need not be filed until visa numbers become current. Is that correct? What if I go to a consulate for H1B visa stamping and they ask me whether AC21 has been filed for the empployment visa? Please advise, I am quite confused.
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SkilledWorker4GC
07-21 11:44 AM
Mailed EAD Renewal on 7/7/08
Receipt Dt 07/09/2008
Notice Dt 07/09/2008
Receipt Dt 07/09/2008
Notice Dt 07/09/2008
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amitjoey
11-18 01:38 PM
In addition to completing the action item, set up an appointment with my Congressman for the week after next to push for this provision.
As stated by the more experienced folks involved with this initiative, the bottomline is that any action item should be accompanied by a grass roots effort where all our members should meet with the local congressmen/congresswoman to push for our provisions (in this case visa recapture). Coordinated action items and phone campaigns always help but we should not wait for an action item to talk to the lawmaker offices in our local districts.
You are absolutely right!. Thanks for taking the initiative to talk to your congressman.
As stated by the more experienced folks involved with this initiative, the bottomline is that any action item should be accompanied by a grass roots effort where all our members should meet with the local congressmen/congresswoman to push for our provisions (in this case visa recapture). Coordinated action items and phone campaigns always help but we should not wait for an action item to talk to the lawmaker offices in our local districts.
You are absolutely right!. Thanks for taking the initiative to talk to your congressman.
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ub27
07-29 08:53 AM
Recieved an email just now. Status was updated to card production ordered.
Paper filed at TSC on May 22, 2008
Service center: TSC
Last LUD on July 25 (Previous update was on May 25)
Current status: Card production ordered.
Waiting till I get the card .........
Just got an e-mail telling my approval notice for EAD was mailed:
Paper filed at TSC on May 22
On July 28, 2008, we mailed you a notice that we have approved this I765
Paper filed at TSC on May 22, 2008
Service center: TSC
Last LUD on July 25 (Previous update was on May 25)
Current status: Card production ordered.
Waiting till I get the card .........
Just got an e-mail telling my approval notice for EAD was mailed:
Paper filed at TSC on May 22
On July 28, 2008, we mailed you a notice that we have approved this I765
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02-14 09:54 PM
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GCard_Dream
12-11 11:54 AM
Can't agree with you more. Since 9 or so mandatory spending bills are pending for 110th congress and it will be the first order of business when congress opens in January, including minor provisions like these, which doesn't require any visa increase, should be considered as a possibility and pursued. If we just want to hit jackpot, it may not be happening anytime soon.
Well said actually!
From the past couple of years and efforts it is VERY clear that any kind of Quota Increase is a BIG no no with the Anti-immigrants. This now divides the IV users into 3 groups
1) This group has already applied for the I-485 a Long time ago but has not seen their GC in the mail yet.
2) This group has not been able to file for I-485 coz of retrogression.
3) This group is stuck in Labour Certification stage and cant do anything about it.
How about for starters if we try and alleviate the pain of people in groups 2 and 3, i.e. ask for people to be able to apply for stage 3 (and ead etc) without the PD mess. For the labour people we ask for a similar benefit. As for group one, well i know that you guys do not benefit under this, but consider this, you are already in a much better situation than the rest of 2 groups. I know you have to go for fingerprinting etc and renew the EAD every year, but consider this: People stuck in LC and stage 2 have to spend much more on renewing H1/H4s coz of lawyer fees. Maybe, if we reduced our demands to asking for 3 things
a) Filing for stage 3 regardless of PD
b) Relief for people in the LC mess
c) Fingerprinting one person just Once (i mean fingerprints dont change do they?)
This might go under the radar as no quota increase is being asked for. I know this point has been discussed ad-infinitum before and we concluded that no more band-aids for the immigration process, let us get a permanent solution. Well permanent solutions take their time, especially with a Much more powerful lobby opposing those changes. For all we know this permanent solution may NEVER go through. Lets face the facts here:
1) The big corps are pushing ONLY for H1B increase.
2) Anti-immigrants are opposed to ANY kind of increase in numbers.
3) Currently the political climate is such that it is either, deal with legals AND illegals or nothing at all.
4) Currently FAR bigger problems stand in front of the lawmakers such as the war, stem cell, abortion etc etc etc.
5) Currently the average American is OPPOSED to even legal immigrants for fear of losing their jobs to them.
In light of all this, does it make sense to go for a Comprehensive Permanent solution or does it make sense to ask for smaller tid-bits and treat the other costs we incur as "costs of doing business"? I mean atleast if the husband and wife Both have H1bs and jobs, you will still be making a ton of money. U use things like approved I-140s to switch jobs with 3 year extensions or u use the EADs. Let us seriously think about this solution.
Well said actually!
From the past couple of years and efforts it is VERY clear that any kind of Quota Increase is a BIG no no with the Anti-immigrants. This now divides the IV users into 3 groups
1) This group has already applied for the I-485 a Long time ago but has not seen their GC in the mail yet.
2) This group has not been able to file for I-485 coz of retrogression.
3) This group is stuck in Labour Certification stage and cant do anything about it.
How about for starters if we try and alleviate the pain of people in groups 2 and 3, i.e. ask for people to be able to apply for stage 3 (and ead etc) without the PD mess. For the labour people we ask for a similar benefit. As for group one, well i know that you guys do not benefit under this, but consider this, you are already in a much better situation than the rest of 2 groups. I know you have to go for fingerprinting etc and renew the EAD every year, but consider this: People stuck in LC and stage 2 have to spend much more on renewing H1/H4s coz of lawyer fees. Maybe, if we reduced our demands to asking for 3 things
a) Filing for stage 3 regardless of PD
b) Relief for people in the LC mess
c) Fingerprinting one person just Once (i mean fingerprints dont change do they?)
This might go under the radar as no quota increase is being asked for. I know this point has been discussed ad-infinitum before and we concluded that no more band-aids for the immigration process, let us get a permanent solution. Well permanent solutions take their time, especially with a Much more powerful lobby opposing those changes. For all we know this permanent solution may NEVER go through. Lets face the facts here:
1) The big corps are pushing ONLY for H1B increase.
2) Anti-immigrants are opposed to ANY kind of increase in numbers.
3) Currently the political climate is such that it is either, deal with legals AND illegals or nothing at all.
4) Currently FAR bigger problems stand in front of the lawmakers such as the war, stem cell, abortion etc etc etc.
5) Currently the average American is OPPOSED to even legal immigrants for fear of losing their jobs to them.
In light of all this, does it make sense to go for a Comprehensive Permanent solution or does it make sense to ask for smaller tid-bits and treat the other costs we incur as "costs of doing business"? I mean atleast if the husband and wife Both have H1bs and jobs, you will still be making a ton of money. U use things like approved I-140s to switch jobs with 3 year extensions or u use the EADs. Let us seriously think about this solution.
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suriajay12
02-25 08:55 PM
Thanks for your insight and observation.
Do you believe in what IV is doing?
If Yes, i will really appreciate if you can contribute and help us in any way. This is an organisation run by people like me and you, who have full time jobs and have families also. If we all can take out some time out of our busy lives and try to help IV, then everyone will know about IV.
When we say we need to convince people, which is ridiculous, as i am 100% sure, everybody knows whats going on. We all are suffering and are here fort he long haul. If still people dont want to do anything, then no one can help us.
So, Thanks a lot for your insight and help IV to help yourself.
GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
Akhil,
I could convince 3 of my colleagues who are READY RIGHT NOW to contribute $1000.00 each. I can do $500.00.
But they asked me just one question. What is the action plan that IV is collecting these monies from prospective immigrants who are already in pain due to this economy and all that. I did tell them about July 07, flower campaign, but they are not willing to listen. They said they did not contribute at that time due to some reasons, but they now want to contribute big way. They have a much bigger friend's circle than mine who are also doing good from top schools who may contribute too. They may also register in IV soon.
But their only question is "What is the action plan for FUTURE". Can you please help.
I am confused myself with the same question, no offense. Like me, they wouldnt wait and wait forever for things to happen. We Strongly believe in any action towards goals. Trust me, we need lots of money, but the way they responded made me feel uncomfortable.
Do you believe in what IV is doing?
If Yes, i will really appreciate if you can contribute and help us in any way. This is an organisation run by people like me and you, who have full time jobs and have families also. If we all can take out some time out of our busy lives and try to help IV, then everyone will know about IV.
When we say we need to convince people, which is ridiculous, as i am 100% sure, everybody knows whats going on. We all are suffering and are here fort he long haul. If still people dont want to do anything, then no one can help us.
So, Thanks a lot for your insight and help IV to help yourself.
GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
Akhil,
I could convince 3 of my colleagues who are READY RIGHT NOW to contribute $1000.00 each. I can do $500.00.
But they asked me just one question. What is the action plan that IV is collecting these monies from prospective immigrants who are already in pain due to this economy and all that. I did tell them about July 07, flower campaign, but they are not willing to listen. They said they did not contribute at that time due to some reasons, but they now want to contribute big way. They have a much bigger friend's circle than mine who are also doing good from top schools who may contribute too. They may also register in IV soon.
But their only question is "What is the action plan for FUTURE". Can you please help.
I am confused myself with the same question, no offense. Like me, they wouldnt wait and wait forever for things to happen. We Strongly believe in any action towards goals. Trust me, we need lots of money, but the way they responded made me feel uncomfortable.
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anil_gc
08-09 10:37 AM
Anil,
Did you notice any change in the LUD of your pending or previously approved cases??
No, I have not created an online account
Did you notice any change in the LUD of your pending or previously approved cases??
No, I have not created an online account
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sanju
03-06 03:22 PM
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Please DO NOT join this selfish effort aimed at fixing the country limits till MIRAGE gets his green card.
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Removal of country limits temporarily and permanently, will both require the support of the majority of both houses of the congress. It will require as much effort to to remove country limits temporarily as it will require to remove country limits permanently.
Some folks here just wants to remove country limits till the time they get their agree card i.e. for the span of 2 years. If removal of country limits is good for EB community and America, then why only remove it for 2 years ONLY.
Such a campaign is likely to divide this community. PLEASE DO NOT divide the community by supporting this mis-directed agenda.
If country caps can be removed temporarily then they can be removed permanently. But asking for less than what key lawmakers have already proposed less than 6 months back is like shooting ourselves in the foot. PLEASE DO NOT throw others under the bus. PLEASE!!!!
Just a little update, Called up my Senator's office this morning..Started talking about country Cap issue, the guy knew everything about it, he took notes & promised he will pass it on to the Senator. Here's what I suggested him
1) Lift the Country Cap for Temporary period of time, may be just for 2 years.
2) Limit the Maximum waiting time, say if one applicant is waiting for 5 years than country cap should be exempted and he should be given a preference over a person who�s PD is just 1 year old.
He specifically told me 'your second point is very good, I'll certainly share these with the Senator'...
I urge you guys to contact your senators & Congressmen/Congresswomen
We have a group which is focusing on this issue, if you want to join us here's the link
Please DO NOT join this selfish effort aimed at fixing the country limits till MIRAGE gets his green card.
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Removal of country limits temporarily and permanently, will both require the support of the majority of both houses of the congress. It will require as much effort to to remove country limits temporarily as it will require to remove country limits permanently.
Some folks here just wants to remove country limits till the time they get their agree card i.e. for the span of 2 years. If removal of country limits is good for EB community and America, then why only remove it for 2 years ONLY.
Such a campaign is likely to divide this community. PLEASE DO NOT divide the community by supporting this mis-directed agenda.
If country caps can be removed temporarily then they can be removed permanently. But asking for less than what key lawmakers have already proposed less than 6 months back is like shooting ourselves in the foot. PLEASE DO NOT throw others under the bus. PLEASE!!!!
Just a little update, Called up my Senator's office this morning..Started talking about country Cap issue, the guy knew everything about it, he took notes & promised he will pass it on to the Senator. Here's what I suggested him
1) Lift the Country Cap for Temporary period of time, may be just for 2 years.
2) Limit the Maximum waiting time, say if one applicant is waiting for 5 years than country cap should be exempted and he should be given a preference over a person who�s PD is just 1 year old.
He specifically told me 'your second point is very good, I'll certainly share these with the Senator'...
I urge you guys to contact your senators & Congressmen/Congresswomen
We have a group which is focusing on this issue, if you want to join us here's the link
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sc3
08-18 06:50 PM
Ok, bear with me here.
Say I have a PD from 1998, but I did not apply for 485 because, say, I wasn't married, or I my religious beliefs did not allow me, or some other reason.
Now when everybody else between 2000 and 2004 have possibly been granted their GCs based on visa availability, how fair it would be for 2005 applicant to be held back just because a 1998 guy applied today? Not it would not be. It is not fair to hold back a 2005 applicant because a 1998 person chose not to apply when the time was ripe.
Now you will argue that 1998 applicant cant be given the PD priority because he did not apply for personal reason, and that is his problem. Sorry, but then you are persecuting that person based on his religious beliefs. a big NO NO.
Bottom line is that PD priority is maintained only through cut-off (priority) dates. Beyond that it is just RD/ND. It may not sound fair to you, but it is actually fair. PD-cut-off already maintain a good priority queue.
Action on these micro-items is not good use of resource. These symptoms are only temporary, and not systemic enough to warrant a legislative action or anything else.
Say I have a PD from 1998, but I did not apply for 485 because, say, I wasn't married, or I my religious beliefs did not allow me, or some other reason.
Now when everybody else between 2000 and 2004 have possibly been granted their GCs based on visa availability, how fair it would be for 2005 applicant to be held back just because a 1998 guy applied today? Not it would not be. It is not fair to hold back a 2005 applicant because a 1998 person chose not to apply when the time was ripe.
Now you will argue that 1998 applicant cant be given the PD priority because he did not apply for personal reason, and that is his problem. Sorry, but then you are persecuting that person based on his religious beliefs. a big NO NO.
Bottom line is that PD priority is maintained only through cut-off (priority) dates. Beyond that it is just RD/ND. It may not sound fair to you, but it is actually fair. PD-cut-off already maintain a good priority queue.
Action on these micro-items is not good use of resource. These symptoms are only temporary, and not systemic enough to warrant a legislative action or anything else.
imh1b
02-16 08:40 AM
I want to come to Advocacy day. If my plans change, I will contribute the amount I would have spent for my travel, food and stay in DC to IV.
dehradoon
10-08 05:45 PM
I applied for the first time in 2001, and then in 2005 (due to relocation) and ended up at the backlog center. Another relocation and now my PD is March 2007, and these recent wannabes want Perm approved in 1 month, I-140 premium processing in few days and then onto I-485 which should be current with no retrogression. Amen !! When do you want the USCIS to bend over for you?
:D ... couldn't stop laughing, the gov't should move the H1B quote to 250K/year and keep the GC to 140K/year, US will then get over a million people in the next 4 years.
forward looking scenario -
If nothing happens in the next 4 years then everyone who's here would still be here talking the same things as right now (with their bewildered hope of getting thru), the difference being all the 2005-2007 would also be old timers then, That would really change their perception.
Hey, this is just an opinion. nothing to debate on .... pure speculation. if you want me to give the full disclosure on forward looking scneario I can get that done but I'll have to rip it off some analysts comments :cool:
:D ... couldn't stop laughing, the gov't should move the H1B quote to 250K/year and keep the GC to 140K/year, US will then get over a million people in the next 4 years.
forward looking scenario -
If nothing happens in the next 4 years then everyone who's here would still be here talking the same things as right now (with their bewildered hope of getting thru), the difference being all the 2005-2007 would also be old timers then, That would really change their perception.
Hey, this is just an opinion. nothing to debate on .... pure speculation. if you want me to give the full disclosure on forward looking scneario I can get that done but I'll have to rip it off some analysts comments :cool:
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